ubuntu should get behind Gnash

[drascus]

One of the most annoying issues with Gnu/Linux is good flash support. proprietary Adobe is annoying on many levels. first of all it is proprietary software that ubuntu Developers can't support and that presents a problem for people who value their freedom. Second there are some annoying issues that constantly plague it that causes firefox to crash. third newer versions of their flash player will implement a type of DRM and it would be a terrible loss to put DRM on our free systems.

I suggest that ubuntu and canonical get behind Gnash to help get them to a point where they can do all the things adobe flash can do and so that we can have a way out of the flash media trap.

[quinnten83]

Aye, Aye,...
But what would you want to use in the meantime? cause where Gnash is now, is pretty much unusable (useless seems like such a harsh word!).

[mrgnash]

It would be awesome if swfdec and gnash merged, or something along those lines, because swfdec is actually pretty awesome.

[DoctorMO]

Ubuntu is behind gnash, they put it out by default on installs.

[Polygon]

is it installed by default in hardy?

and unless it works 100%, ill still be using adobes version. I have enough problems with flash to deal with something that has bugs with actually decoding the flash video...

[Blue Heron]

first of all it is proprietary software that ubuntu Developers can't support and that presents a problem for people who value their freedom.

hypocrisy, your freedom is not endangered by certain techniques like flash, by saying everything should be open source you are stretching the freedom argument into own ideology

[Sef]

It is improving. It is beta now, but more work is needed.

[DoctorMO]

hypocrisy, your freedom is not endangered by certain techniques like flash

Yes it is, it my not be a freedom you have use for or a freedom you find all that interesting to ensure other people have... but don't forget that the best way to break into an ubuntu desktop is still through the proprietary code slapped on top.

This isn't to say that these companies aren't concerned with security and stability, it's just that they all suck at it. Most companies have programmers that write god awful code, it just has to work to pass QA. most of them would be fired if they ever had to build a bridge or something important.

Now you want to complain about a person who wants to stand up and enjoy modern society without having to put up with the shameful coding that goes on. I don't think you have the right to shut someone down for speaking their mind, nor the right to decide what is and is not freedom just because you don't happen to find it _useful_

[bruce89]

is it installed by default in hardy?

No.

[Blue Heron]

the shameful coding that goes on.

ridiculous,
there is nothing against closed source applications

Linux is made for closed source software.